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RvmTranslator - Translate AVEVA RVM to OBJ, glTF, etc.
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RvmTranslator4.0 Beta Version is Released

eryar@163.com

RvmTranslator4.0 beta version is released! The big change is able to translate RVM to 3D PDF, including the design element hierarchy, color information.

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Figure 1. Piping model in AVEVA PDMS

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Figure 2. Piping model in Adobe Reader

You can navigate the design element by the assembly tree just like you in PDMS design explorer:

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Figure 3. Navigate by the Model Tree

You can add comment for the model, this is often used in the model review:

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Figure 4. Add comment to the model

You can measure the distance, radius and angle in the model:

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Figure 5. Measure distance in 3D PDF

The 3D PDF file is smaller and can add comment and measure the distance, angle, .etc, so 3D PDF is best suited for the model review workflow for plant design.

The RvmTranslator4.0 Beta version is only translate text RVM to 3D PDF for testing, you can download it from here: RvmTranslator4.0 Beta

Feedback

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2016-03-29 09:54 by ccsdu2009
感觉你还是建个独立网站比较好

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2016-03-29 15:40 by eryar
@ccsdu2009

恩,如果有了自己的公司,独立的网站还是很有必要!

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2016-03-29 15:42 by cwing
Hi Eryar

I am impressed with your translator and able to translate the spooler with no problem. However when I tried to convert a few RVM files of mine (around 60MB-70MB), it alsways stop about 5minutes of processing and said RVMTranslator not responding.

Thank you.

With Best Regards
Cwingz

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2016-03-29 19:12 by eryar
@cwing

Hi Cwingz,

Thanks for your feedback.

The 4.0 Beta version of RvmTranslator only can translate text RVM to 3D PDF.

And your RVM files are too large for RvmTranslator, especially the binary RVM files. I think you can export smaller RVM file to have a try.

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-03-30 14:18 by CWING
Hi Shing Liu

Thank you for your quick response, really appreciate it. Would like to ask if you have any tools/recommendations to segregate the large RVM files (70MB) into smaller portion without exporting?

With Best Regards
Cwing

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2016-03-30 19:00 by eryar
@CWING

Hello Cwing,

Sorry, I have no tools to split RVM files.
You can export smaller RVM files from PDMS, such as a RVM file only include one SITE or ZONE.

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-04-01 15:12 by me_hungry
Is it possible to output model in PDF with different colors (based on RVM)?
Best Regards,
me_hungry.

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2016-04-01 15:25 by CWING
Hi Shing Liu

Thank you very much for your feedback.

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2016-04-01 15:42 by eryar
@me_hungry

Hi me_hungry,

Yes, it is possible to set model color in PDF by RVM files.
The RVM contains color info.

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-04-01 15:45 by eryar
@CWING

Hi Cwing,

You are welcome.

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2016-04-12 12:21 by ssj
我转换一个28M的rvm到obj,看提示,前面转换都成功,但在写入obj文件时可能出错,有obj文件,但只有文件头,没有实际内容。

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2016-04-12 21:38 by eryar
@ssj
Hi,
你好!

你转换成STL试过没?

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2016-04-13 10:42 by ssj
@eryar

试了一下转换stl,文件可以生成,有1.3G。但使用Navisworks2013无法打开,提示版本号未知。

手头的测试工具使用的是obj格式,如果能转换就好了。
之前用的各种曲线救国方式,转换后的obj有555m,希望从rvm直接转换的能小一些。

找了两个较小的文件测试,都可以成功,但结果文件比我之前转换的还要大很多。原始rvm有1.37M,转换后99.8M,我之前转换是64.2M。从文件行数来看,也是原来的2倍多。
另外,丢失了对象的命名和层次结构。

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2016-04-13 23:35 by eryar
@ssj

Hi ssj,

你好!

目前RvmTranslator生成的OBJ文件中是没有对象命名和层次结构信息。

你的OBJ文件是准备用在unity3d中么?

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-04-18 09:20 by ssj
@eryar

不用于unity3d,是我们自己的应用软件。

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2016-04-22 16:38 by Hkrugertjie
Hi do you know of a way to subdivide the .rvm when I export it from PDMS without manually selecting each section? I currently have a zone file that exports to be around 300mb as a text file and the translator bugs out. I have done some smaller files with sucess but some of them keeps on telling me that my .rvm file is faulty (when I export as binary) or that the translator quits in a bad mannor (when translating as a text).

Kind Regards
Hkrugertjie

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2016-04-22 18:36 by eryar
@Hkrugertjie

Hi Hkrugertijie,

I do not know the way to subdivide rvm file except manually select them. That is a known problem of RvmTranslator to export so big rvm file.

RvmTranslator4.0 now only can export text rvm file to 3D PDF, the binary rvm is not supported.

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-04-22 19:57 by hkrugertjie
@Shing Liu

Thanks for the response, I will try and write a macro to automate the output from pdms (my programming skills is not at your level though). A suggestion for the next update might be to allow your program to do a series of files and export them one by one. Currently I am exporting frol PDMS to Solidworks and your converter absolutely does the trick with the IGES format. The only issue is that it takes forever to do 100 smaller files given that even solidworks is having a problem processing large files.

Kind Regards
Hkrugertjie

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2016-04-22 20:25 by eryar
@hkrugertjie

You are welcome!

Kudos for your PML macro skills.

Current version have this functionality to translate multiple files one by one.

Yes, solidworks have problem for larges files. For solidworks I think it also support STEP files.

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-04-26 17:24 by hkrugertjie
Shing Liu

I have managed to get the PDMS macro running, meaning that I can split my file into as many levels as I want to it goes from
Level 1: 1 file
Level 2: 22 files
Level 3: 62 Files
Level 4: 925 Files

however I need to translate these files in an automated way, either by looping through it, since clicking 925 times will make my finger quite numb, is there a way to do this?

Regards
hkrugertjie

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2016-04-26 19:22 by eryar
@hkrugertjie

Wonderful!

Of course, there is an automated way, that is use RvmTranslator in the Batch File, such as the RvmTranslator.bat does.

You can generate a XXX.bat file to run RvmTranslator, just give two parameters: Rvm file name(include path) and translator Type(STEP, IGES, STL, etc). You can write the batch file like this:
RvmTranslator "1.rvm" "STEP"
RvmTranslator "2.rvm" "STEP"
RvmTranslator "3.rvm" "STEP"
...

then run the XXX.bat.

Enjoy!

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2016-04-26 20:17 by Hkrugertjie
@Shing Liu

Shot

I managed to write a loop and edit your batch file.

Thanks a million for the help.

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2016-05-11 17:03 by HB
太给力,上次好像提过,后面就有了 真是不错!!!一百个支持

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2016-05-26 19:14 by hkrugertjie
@Shing Liu

Is it possible to ask you to email me the conversation tables that you used originally for the RMV translator for the IGES format? I would highly appreciate that.

my email is hkrugertjie@gmail.com

Regards
hkrugertjie

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2016-08-05 21:02 by Roman
Hi,
Thanks for great tool!
Please can you update you form to add TEXT option for export Text RVM (as it's required for your tool):

EXPORT FILE /$!aRvmFile TEXT

At current moment using your form PDMS export binary RVM which can't be converted by RVMConverter (but hope it will be possible in future).

Best regards,
Roman

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2016-08-05 21:34 by eryar
@Roman
Hi Roman,

A good suggestion!

I have add a option to select the export RVM file format, you can have a try. Download RvmTranslator4.2 from here:

http://yun.baidu.com/pcloud/album/file?album_id=3634993082542187183&uk=3808749571&fsid=632872733265048

PS: what is RVMConverter?

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-08-08 16:03 by Roman
Hi Shing Lui,
Thanks for updates! You added menu for selecting binary or text rvm. Can RVMT translate binary rvm now?

RMVConverter - my mistake. I mean RVMTranslator:)

Is it possible to translate colors of 3d model into PDF? Or may be just add option to your utility to load file with color rules? After converting model is dark and required to be colored before using. If it possible to transfer colors into 3d PDF automatically it will be big advantage.
In any case thanks for your efforts!
Roman

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2016-08-10 11:23 by eryar
@Roman
Hi Roman,

Yes, RvmTranslator can translate binary RVM.

Yes, it is possible to translate color of 3d model into PDF.
I will check this. I found there are not many person use
the 3D PDF.

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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2016-08-10 23:03 by Roman
Hi Shing Lui,

Translating binary RVM is not working for me. But in any case I can produce TEXT rvm and now it's enough.

Yes, not many people use 3D pdf due to some limitation of size 3d model in pdf. And also it's was not suitable process to get pdf: produce rvm file, open AVEVA Review and save to 3D pdf. It's required to install AVEVA Review for all users or install it on common server and make some additional macros. Long way ...
Using your utility I can convert rvm into pdf w/out running Review. It's more easy and faster.

And also I think designers don't always know about such feature of PDF and CAD admin don't think that it can be useful tool for designers:)

Also I saw Acrobat can load some JavaScript which can add some additional information/notes to 3d. I think it will be useful to exchange by small 3d model with some notes by e-mail to discuss about design.

If you need any help for PML you can use some of my knowledge:)

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2016-08-11 20:27 by eryar
@Roman
Hi Roman,

I have checked the binary rvm export, it works.

Yes, I agree with you. The 3D PDF is useful for small model with notes by email or internet to discuss their design.

Yes, Acrobat support JavaScript to define some 3D effect for the model.

Best Regards,
Shing Liu

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